But cf Lord Goff, n 15 below, 84-85. Where the offeree himself indicates that an offer is to be taken as accepted if he does not indicate to the contrary by an ascertainable time, he is undertaking to speak if he does not want an agreement to be concluded. The House of Lords held that the agreement was nudum pactum, being without consideration, and did not prevent the creditor, after payment of the whole debt and costs, from proceeding to enforce payment of the interest on the judgment. A differently constituted Court of Appeal made these points in In re Selectmove Ltd [1995] 1 WLR 474, and declined to follow Williams v Roffey. By then, on 19 August 1991, it had duly paid PAYE and NIC for August 1991 amounting to 2,309, but it had not paid PAYE and NIC for September 1991 although that had become due on 19 September 1991. In case of any confusion, feel free to reach out to us.Leave your message here. contains alphabet), England and Wales Court of Appeal (Civil Division). Denning LJ created requirements. held to be unenforceable for want of consideration a promise by a ship's captain to seamen, hired to crew the ship to and from the Baltic, of extra pay for working the ship back from the Baltic after two men had deserted. It is probably ripe for re-examination. Mr. Nugee submitted that if the agreement was unenforceable for want of consideration the Revenue is nevertheless estopped by the doctrine of promissory estoppel. Lord Justice Peter Gibson: This is an appeal by Selectmove Ltd. ("the Company") from the Order made on 19 January 1993 by His Honour Judge Moseley Q.C., sitting as a Judge of the Companies Court, whereby on the petition of the Commissioners of Inland Revenue as creditors he compulsorily wound up the Company. The Judge referred to the Affidavit evidence of Mr. ffooks in which he had stated what had occurred at the meeting with Mr. Polland on 15 July 1991 and the absence of any communication from the Revenue at any time before 9 October and had asserted that the offer had been accepted. Mr. Charles did not accept that the Revenue could be estopped as a matter of private law from performing its statutory duty, but he accepted that as a matter of public law the Revenue could be prevented from acting unfairly. Mr A W Charles (instructed by the Solicitor's Department for the Commissioners of the Inland Revenue) appeared on behalf of the Respondent. ... AC 552 also Gibson v Manchester County Council [1979] 1 All ER 972). Get 1 point on providing a valid sentiment to this On 15 July 1991 Mr. ffooks, the Managing Director of the Company, met Mr. Polland, a Collector of Taxes, at the latter's office. Although their Lordships were unanimous in the result, that case is notable for the powerful speech of Lord Blackburn who made plain his disagreement with the course the law had taken in and since Pinnel's Case (1602) 5 Rep. 117a and which the House of Lords in Foakes v Beer decided should not be reversed. ORDER: Appeal dismissed; respondent's costs in the appeal to be costs in the liquidation; no order for the appellant's costs; leave to appeal to the House of Lords refused. On 22 November 1991 a further payment of PAYE and NIC for October and November in the sum of 2,699 was made, again late. [12] [1962] AC 446 at 472-479. The reality is that any decision on this point is likely to involve a re-examination of the decision in Foakes v Beer. In Vanbergen v St. Edmunds Properties Ltd. [1933] 2 K.B. Peter Gibson LJ (Stuart-Smith and Balcombe LJJ concurring) observed that Foakes v Beer precluded any variation of the agreement to repay the debt without good consideration, despite the recent decision in Williams v Roffey Bros Ltd. Peter Gibson LJ stated that ‘it is clear… that a practical benefit of that nature is not good consideration in law’. If courts allow parties to act upon their strict legal rights it would be unfair on the new promise they have made to the other party. The statements of Russell LJ and Baragwanath J suggest that there is some truth to the realist interpretation of consideration endorsed by Atiyah. 925, 937 per Robert Goff L.J.). Re Selectmove [1995] 1 WLR 474 Facts: a dispute over tax; Issue: question of whether silence could constitute acceptance featured but was not essential to decision; Held: Gibson LJ obiter: Where the offeree himself indicates that an offer is to be taken as accepted if he does not indicate to the contrary by an ascertainable time, he is undertaking to speak if he does not want an agreement to be … Accordingly, I would hold that the Judge was right to conclude that there was no acceptance, though my reasons differ from those of the Judge. The difficulty that I have with this submission stems from the fact that it is trite law that ostensible authority involves a representation by the principal as to the extent of the agent's authority and no representation by the agent as to the extent of his authority can amount to a holding out by his principal (see, for example, Bowstead on Agency (15th ed.) 223 at p.231 Lord Hanworth M.R. By clicking on this tab, you are expressly stating that you were one of the attorneys appearing in this matter. Added in 24 Hours. These were that the promise was intended to be regulated by the law, the promisor was … Yet it is clear that the House of Lords decided that a practical benefit of that nature is not good consideration in law. He has to assert that Mr. Polland had ostensible authority and he submits that such authority extended to conveying his principals' acceptance by his subsequent silence. In Re Selectmove ([1995] 1 WLR 474) ... (Per Peter Gibson LJ ) Promissory Estoppel A chapter on consideration would not be complete without some mention of the doctrine of promissory estoppel. Cf: In re Selectmove Ltd [1995] 1 WLR 474 (Gibson LJ) *480 “Mr. 51 Williams v Roffey Bros, above n 12, at 18. He said that the Company had acted on the Revenue's promise and it would be inequitable to allow the Revenue to renege on its promise. Selectmove Ltd heard nothing until a £25,650 notice came in and a threat of a wind-up petition. in terms confined his remarks to a case where B is to do the work for or supply goods or services to A, the same principle must apply where B's obligation is to pay A, and he referred to an article by Adams and Brownsword in (1990) 53 M.L.R. He did not suggest that an objection of unfairness could not be taken in the present proceedings. said "It is a well established principle that a promise to pay a sum which the debtor is already bound by law to pay to the promisee does not afford any consideration to support the contract." Foakes v Beer was not even referred to in the Williams case, and it is in my judgment impossible, consistently with the doctrine of precedent, for this Court to extend the principle of the Williams case to any circumstances governed by the principle of Foakes v Beer. I see the force of the argument, but the difficulty that I feel with it is that if the principle of the Williams case is to be extended to an obligation to make payment, it would in effect leave the principle in Foakes v Beer without any application. Once you create your profile, you will be able to: Claim the judgments where you have appeared by linking them directly to your profile and maintain a record of your body of work. When a creditor and a debtor who are at arm's length reach agreement on the payment of the debt by instalments to accommodate the debtor, the creditor will no doubt always see a practical benefit to himself in so doing. Re Selectmove Ltd. Quite the same Wikipedia. ... Re Selectmove [1995] 1 WLR 474 was a case in which an individual promised to pay their debt in instalments over time, rather than in full. Essentially, it will be underlying the principle of Williams v Roffey. The company proposed it would pay the current deductions as they came due and £1,000 per month effective February 1, 1992 on the arrears. He relied on the decision of this Court in Williams v Roffey Bros. & Nicholls (Contractors) Ltd. [1991] 1 Q.B.1 for the proposition that a promise to perform an existing obligation can amount to good consideration provided that there are practical benefits to the promisee. The defendant agreed to make additional payments to the plaintiff in return for his promise to carry out his existing obligations. 5 Ibid, 481D. It was to that letter that Mr. ffooks was responding by his letter dated 11 October 1991 in which the agreement between Mr. ffooks and Mr. Polland was alleged. The decision in Re Selectmove Ltd [1995] 1 WLR 474 does seem to go against the application of Williams v Roffey Bros Ltd to part payment of a debt, following the strict Pinnel's case and Foakes v Beer type approach because Peter Gibson LJ in that case says that: In the absence of authority there would be much to be said for the enforceability of such a contract. For these reasons despite the able and well-sustained arguments of Mr. Nugee I would dismiss this appeal. However, the court also considered the question of consideration. ... O ISSUE 2 – OBITER DICTUM - Ink in teleprinter runs out, but clerk does not ask for the document to be re-sent O Acceptance is effective – the offeror is … On 18 October 1991 the employees of the Company were given notice of dismissal and on 24 October 1991 the Company sold all its work in progress to another company, the intention of the sale agreement being, according to the Company's solicitor, Mr. Stockler, to provide 1,000 per month to settle the Revenue's claim. 15-16): Mr. Nugee submitted that although Glidewell L.J. Citation. [11] [1980] 3 All ER 257. In July 1991 the Company owed the Revenue substantial amounts of tax ("PAYE") which it had deducted from the emoluments of its employees under the P.A.Y.E. Accordingly the practice of the Companies Court is to dismiss a creditor's petition based on a debt which is disputed by the company in good faith and on substantial grounds (see, for example, Stonegate Securities Ltd. v Gregory [1980] Ch. Re Selectmove [1995] 1 WLR 474. Sportska akademija Vunderkid Vaše dijete, čudo od pokreta! As his Lordship put it, in forceful language, In Re Selectmove [1995] 1 WLR 474, Peter Gibson LJ held that Roffey Bros-type reasoning was precisely what the House of Lords had rejected in Foakes v Beer. In England, held not to apply to case 10a: In re Selectmove [1995] 1 WLR 474 (CA) per Peter Gibson LJ at 481: “When a creditor and a debtor who are at arm’s length reach agreement on the payment of the debt by instalments to accommodate the debtor, the creditor will no doubt always see … 730-731): In the present case I am not aware of any fact which would enable Mr. ffooks reasonably to believe that the superiors, to whom Mr. Polland referred, were themselves making a representation that Mr. Polland had their authority to accept the offer or to convey their acceptance by his silence. In that case the defendant, which had a building contract, subcontracted work to the plaintiff at a price which left him in financial difficulty and there was a risk that the work would not be completed by the plaintiff. 4 n 1 above, 902. In 1992 7 cheques of 1,000 each were paid to the Revenue, the first two on 3 March 1992. The case of White v Bluett(1853) 23 LJ Ex 36 is a good starting point for examining the definition of ‘economic value’. Between August and November 19… In two cases this year, the Court of Appeal has held that a term in a contract that no variation shall be binding unless it complies with certain formalities does not necessarily prevent an informal variation. It is unnecessary to consider the rival arguments in further detail as in my opinion Mr. Nugee's submission cannot succeed for at least two reasons. In re Selectmove Ltd [1993] EWCA Civ 8 is an English contract law case, concerning the doctrine of consideration, and part payments of debt. 3 Millett LJ dissenting. ... Gibson LJ in In re Selectmove Ltd understood it, is that a promise by a debtor to repay his creditor in part for the settlement for the full debt can I see no reason in principle why that should not be an exceptional circumstance such that the offer can be accepted by silence. Contains public sector information licensed under the Open Government Licence v3.0. * Enter a valid Journal (must 474 The Weekly Law Reports 24 March 1995 11995| [COURT OF APPEAL] A *In re SELECTMOVE LTD. 1993 Dec. 7; 21 Balcombe, Stuart-Smith and Peter Gibson L.JJ. In spite of this, it will be covered why the Court of Appeal find impossible to extend the principle of Williams’ case to any circumstances. [10] [1975] AC 154. On the same day that the revised agreement was entered into, Rock paid the first ... Beer and by [Peter Gibson LJ] in Re Selectmove. But that was a matter expressly considered in Foakes v Beer yet held not to constitute good consideration in law. When a creditor and a debtor who are at arm's length reach agreement on the payment of … ... • Re Selectmove [1995] 1 WLR 474 • … In Armagas Ltd. v Mundogas S.A. [1986] AC 717 the House of Lords expressly approved (at p.779) the following remarks by Robert Goff L.J. Gibson LJ said that Williams v Roffey Bros only applied to … The first was that no agreement was concluded by the silence of the Revenue in response to Mr. ffooks' proposal. He continued: The Revenue dispute that Mr. Polland made any agreement with Mr. ffooks. Mr. Polland, he said, asked him if he was in a position to put forward a proposal to pay back the arrears of PAYE and NIC and told him that any proposal should include the prompt payment of any future PAYE and NIC as they fell due. The Judge held that the case fell within the principle of Foakes v Beer, Mr. Nugee submitted that although Glidewell L.J. (3) If there was no agreement, is the Revenue estopped from asserting that its debt is due? Peter Gibson LJ (Stuart-Smith and Balcombe LJJ concurring) observed that Foakes v Beer precluded any variation of the agreement to repay the debt without good consideration, despite the recent decision in Williams v Roffey Bros Ltd. Peter Gibson LJ stated that ‘it is clear… that a practical benefit of that nature is not good consideration in law’. Naviera Sea Orient S.A. [1985] Lloyds L.R. 9. in terms confined his remarks to a case where B is to do the work for or supply goods or services to A, the same principle must apply where B's obligation is to pay A, and he referred to an article by Adams and Brownsword in. 1 [1991] 1 QB 1. change. In this essay it will be discussed whether the principle in Williams v Roffey [1990] 2 WLR 1153 should be extend to cover the situation encountered in re Selectmove Ltd. [1995] 1 WLR 474. This dispute recognizably plagued English Law since precedents of In re Selectmove [1995] 1 WLR 474 and Williams v Roffey Brothers [1991] 1 QB 1 were diametrically opposed on the issue. 3 (1884) 9 App Cas 605. In Re Selectmove it was held that part payment of a debt does not amount to a practical benefit. 15 See Lord Goff, 'Judge, Jurist and Legislature' [1987] … Mr Polland said he would have to check and would contact the managing director if it was unacceptable. On 11 October 1991 the Company paid the September PAYE and NIC in the sum of 1,821. Get 1 point on adding a valid citation to this judgment. The second was that if there was an agreement there was no consideration therefor. English Articles. The other is the promise to pay future PAYE and NIC as they fell due. 2 Rock’s debt to MWB would have been discharged in its entirety by the end of the licence period. (2) If there was an agreement, was it supported by consideration moving to the Revenue? Second, because the Company failed to honour its promise to pay the September PAYE and NIC as they fell due, it was not inequitable or unfair for the Revenue on 9 October 1991 to demand payment of all the arrears, nor, in the light of the further late payments of the October and November PAYE and NIC and of various of the monthly instalments of 1,000, was it unfair or inequitable to serve a statutory demand and present a winding up petition to enforce the debt. Click here to remove this judgment from your profile. Mr C Nugee (instructed by Messrs. Stockler Charity, London, EC4A) appeared on behalf of the Appellant. But that seems to me to be what necessarily is the effect of Mr. ffooks' assertion of the acceptance of the offer. As his Lordship put it, in forceful language. Dyson LJ also noted that ‘this approach [last shot] has the great merit of providing a degree of certainty which is both desirable and necessary in order to promote effective commercial relationships ... RE Selectmove Ltd [1995] – Obiter dictum: Definition. The Company also argued in the alternative that by reason of the agreement between Mr. ffooks and Mr. Polland the Revenue is estopped from relying on the debt as due. Lord Blackburn (at p.622) expressed his conviction that "all men of business, whether merchants or tradesmen, do every day recognise and act on the ground that prompt payment of a part of their demand may be more beneficial to them than it would be to insist on their rights and enforce payment of the whole". A tax collector met with the manager on July 15, 1991 and discovered the company was in financial difficulty. Creating your profile on CaseMine allows you to build your network with fellow lawyers and prospective clients. On 7 September 1992 the Revenue presented its winding up petition based on a claimed debt of 17,466.60. 7. Peter Gibson LJ: A promissory estoppel, in my judgment, arises where (1) there is a clear and unequivocal promise that strict legal rights will not be insisted upon; ... We are not concerned with this exception because this court, in Re Selectmove Ltd [1995] 1 WLR 474, considered Williams but confirmed that a promise to pay part of the money to which the creditor is already entitled is not good consideration. In England, held not to apply to case 10a: In re Selectmove [1995] 1 WLR 474 (CA) per Peter Gibson LJ at 481: “When a creditor and a debtor who are at arm’s length reach agreement on the payment of the debt by instalments to accommodate the debtor, the creditor will no doubt always see … However that recommendation was not implemented and Foakes v Beer has been followed in many cases subsequently, including in the decisions of this court in Vanbergen v St Edmunds Properties Ltd [1933] 2 KB 223, D&C Builders Ltd v Rees [1966] 2 QB 617 and In re Selectmove Ltd [1995] 1 WLR 474. 57 Both appear to take the view that the intention of the parties … [1995] 1 WLR 474 (Peter Gibson LJ, with whom Stuart-Smith and Balcombe LJJ agreed). if the principle of Williams v Roffey Bros Ltd is to be extended to an obligation to make payment, it would in effect leave the principle in Foakes v Beer without any application. There are two elements to the consideration which the Company claims was provided by it to the Revenue. Live Statistics. van Weelde Scheepvaartkantor B.V. v Cia. 5 And see Attorney-General v Colchester Corporation [ 1955] 2 QB 207, 217, per Lord Goddard CJ - ... now also Re Selectmove [1995] 1 WLR 474. Please log in or sign up for a free trial to access this feature. 49 Machirus Properties, above n 42, at 193,076. There is no doubt as to the correct approach to that issue. See also Jones & Goodhart, n 2 above, 2. The Judge held that the case fell within the principle of Foakes v Beer (1884) 9 App Cas 605. ***Re Selectmove Ltd [1995] 1 WLR 474 – ... Peter Gibson LJ: ICLR & Consideration 2016/ Kathy Brown (ii) In full and final settlement A allows B to pay less at an earlier date (Pinnel’s Casel, supra) or place (Vanbergen v St Edmund's Properties Ltd [1933] 2 KB 233). This is probably the most important exception to the rule in Pinnel’s Case. ... 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